{"id":35202,"date":"2021-09-17T22:06:52","date_gmt":"2021-09-17T22:06:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/encartes.mx\/?p=35202"},"modified":"2024-04-24T13:55:16","modified_gmt":"2024-04-24T19:55:16","slug":"mojica-estudios-regionales-jalisco-pedro-tome-andres-fabregas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/encartes.mx\/en\/mojica-estudios-regionales-jalisco-pedro-tome-andres-fabregas\/","title":{"rendered":"Between Regions: Conversation with Pedro Tom\u00e9 and Andr\u00e9s F\u00e1bregas"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Between regions: conversation with Pedro Tom\u00e9 and Andr\u00e9s F\u00e1bregas - Interview by Rafael Mojica\" width=\"580\" height=\"326\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6I598V-xx-Q?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption>Full interview<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap abstract\">Two leading regional scholars, Andr\u00e9s F\u00e1bregas and Pedro Tom\u00e9, discussed how they came to study regions and how they collaborated to work together to study some of them. Both began studying communities: Andr\u00e9s in the 1960s and Pedro in the 1980s. However, by \"imposition of reality,\" as Pedro points out, they moved on to the study of regions. They observed how communities had commercial, kinship, festive and symbolic relationships beyond themselves. Thus, they focused on the network of relationships formed independently of administrative divisions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pedro Tom\u00e9 has studied regions in the Corneja valley, in the upper Alberche valley and in the Sierra de Gredos, in the province of Avila, Spain. He has also written about the Altos de Jalisco and the Gran Chichimeca in Mexico. Another topic of his interest has been the relationship between nature and culture, with its consequent reflection from an ecological anthropology and cultural ecology. Part of his work has been carried out as a member of the Instituto de Lengua, Literatura y Antropolog\u00eda belonging to the Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cient\u00edficas, in Madrid. He is editor of the anthropology journal <em>Disparities<\/em>an important point of diffusion for the discipline.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Andr\u00e9s F\u00e1bregas has excelled in his study of regions in the states of Jalisco, Morelos, Veracruz and Chiapas. Throughout his life he has had the opportunity to collaborate and learn with outstanding personalities of anthropology in Mexico, such as Guillermo Bonfil, \u00c1ngel Palerm, Pedro Carrasco and Johanna Faulhaber. His work as a manager in the foundation of networks, schools, journals, institutions, research centers and study programs in the area of social sciences has also been outstanding, a work that is little recognized in the evaluation made by official institutions of academic careers. In addition to his work on the regions, he has written about border issues, cultural ecology, the Gran Chichimeca and soccer. In the latter, he is a fan of Club Guadalajara. He is currently a researcher at Ciesas Occidente.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pedro Tom\u00e9 and Andr\u00e9s F\u00e1bregas, in the 1990s, converged in the study of the Altos de Jalisco in Mexico and the Sierra de \u00c1vila in Spain. They were struck by the common landscape between both regions, and that landscape, built by human activity, could reveal similar processes. Interesting publications resulted from this meeting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both are examples of the value of doing research as a team, a situation not favored by the tendency to do research individually, since institutions usually evaluate personal performance. In the dialogue they tell how useful interviews in pairs are, especially when one of the two is a foreigner and can ask the uncomfortable questions: in their case, about the Cristero rebellion in the Highlands of Jalisco or the Spanish Civil War in the province of Avila.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After the research is finished, if we can speak of a term, there remain several anecdotes from the fieldwork; of the total number of events experienced, there remains a wealth of stories to tell. These, beyond how attractive or interesting they may be, are revealing of the historical processes in which the subjects participate. They are punctual evidence of other phenomena. For example, Pedro recounted the differences that occurred when he and Andr\u00e9s interviewed a priest in the highlands of Jalisco and another in a town in the province of Avila. How and where the conversations took place pointed out to them the role of the Church and its position in society in both regions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pedro and Andr\u00e9s talked about the ways of interacting with each other<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>by exploring the regions: drinking beers, playing cards, knowing how to tell jokes and other ways to get close to the people under study to talk, play and laugh with them, and at the same time to permeate their culture and get to know them. These interactions give rise to affection and friendships. They are coexistence in the heat of a campfire in which each researcher \"must accept a certain alteration of his or her vision of the world,\" as Andr\u00e9s pointed out. An interculturality that goes back and forth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These affections seem to be hidden by a fear that the research will lose merit because it is not objective. Pedro pointed out that research is not incompatible with making friends. He spoke of the \"double estrangement\" that happens when researching, where one is not only surprised by what one sees but also by how the researcher observes. He also pointed out the differences in the processes of production and the processes of expression.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The interviewees started in communities and moved on to the regions. They have returned to them several times, which has allowed them to observe them from a distance and reflect on their research with new eyes. They return to the region because, as Andr\u00e9s points out, the anthropologist's training does not stop until he or she leaves this world. Thus, they always take with them what they have experienced in the field. There is a lived region that accompanies the researcher permanently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"abstract\"><em>Rafael Omar Mojica Gonz\u00e1lez<\/em> D. in Social Sciences from the Centro de Investigaciones y Estudios Superiores en Antropolog\u00eda Social sede Occidente, Master in History (Interdisciplinary Historical Studies) from the University of Guanajuato and Bachelor in Sociology from the University of Guadalajara. He has worked the region of Los Altos de Jalisco from different aspects. He began with themes of regional economic history and historical demography, later adding questions of ethnic identity, interpretations of the origins of the inhabitants and racism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"abstract\"><em>Pedro Tom\u00e9<\/em> has studied regions in the Corneja valley, in the upper Alberche valley and in the Sierra de Gredos, in the province of Avila, Spain. He has also written about the Altos de Jalisco and the Gran Chichimeca in Mexico. Another topic of interest has been the relationship between nature and culture with its consequent reflection from an ecological anthropology and cultural ecology. Part of his work has been carried out as a member of the Instituto de Lengua, Literatura y Antropolog\u00eda belonging to the Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cient\u00edficas in Madrid. He is editor of the anthropological journal <em>Disparities<\/em>The event is an important focus of dissemination for the discipline.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"abstract\"><em>Andres Fabregas Puig<\/em> is an ethnologist specializing in ethnohistory and holds a master's degree in Anthropological Sciences from the National School of Anthropology and History, a doctorate in Anthropological Sciences from the National School of Anthropology and History, and a Ph. <span class=\"small-caps\">ciesas<\/span>-Mexico. He is a founding member of the Department of Anthropology of the <span class=\"small-caps\">uam<\/span>-Iztapalapa and <span class=\"small-caps\">ciesas<\/span>-He has also contributed to the reorganization of the Chiapas Institute of Culture. He has taught anthropology in several Latin American countries, in Spain and in Mexican universities. He has published books, essays, articles, reviews and popularization texts; he is a member of the National System of Researchers.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pedro and Andr\u00e9s talked about the ways of interacting when researching in the regions: drinking beers, playing cards, telling jokes and other ways to get close to the people under study to talk, play and laugh with them, and at the same time get to know their culture and get to know them. These interactions give rise to affection and friendships. They are coexistence in the heat of a campfire in which each researcher \"must accept a certain alteration of his or her vision of the world,\" as Andr\u00e9s pointed out. 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